tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-66053844594408976052024-03-13T23:34:39.656-07:00Pastor's StudyPastor David Turnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08758742607299611718noreply@blogger.comBlogger50125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6605384459440897605.post-88005350349452957632020-05-26T14:36:00.001-07:002020-05-26T14:42:09.368-07:00Normal Church? <span style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif;"><b>Dear LCBC Members and Friends</b>,</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif;">We know that normal church looks like to church described in the Bible. The world's version of church that doesn't have the power of God or a heart for the lost and the saved is more of a typical church. As a church family, we have been blessed with a great series of revival services and we are ready to move past typical and back to an <b><i>old</i></b> normal. The biblical normal for the saints of God. </span><br />
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<span style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif;"><b>This coming Sunday</b> we are excited to move back into our normal schedule of church meetings. We pray that the power of God will move us to be strong and courageous as we join together once again. Everything will be socially distanced to the best of our ability. Masks are welcome for those who believe they are needed to protect their health. Sunday School will start at 9:15 a.m. with some room changes. </span><br />
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<span style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif;"><b>Adult One Men</b> will meet in the Dining Hall of the Family Center. There will be no assembly meeting for the whole department because we cannot social distance the whole group. <b>Adult One Women </b>will meet in their departmental space and will likely stay as one group in that room until the individual women's teachers are ready to return. </span><br />
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<span style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif;"><b>Adult Two</b> will meet in their normal department space for assembly but their could be some classroom changes if they are needed. Adult Three will not have assembly in the choir room. The whole <b>Adult Three</b> program will meet in the Old Sanctuary. </span><br />
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<span style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif;"><b>Adult Four</b> which is the Coed class taught by Carrol Teal and the Ladies class taught by Liz Turner will meet in their normal spaces. </span><br />
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<span style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif;">Please do not plan to huddle up around tables since it is not possible to social distance in that way. Please plan to use hand sanitizer before handling coffee pots, cups, and supplies. The Lord's Supper will also be different with some special protocols included for your safety. </span><br />
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<span style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif;">We will continue to use Facebook Live on Sunday at 10:30 a.m. and 6:30 p.m. as well as 6 p.m. on Wednesdays. Wednesday night meals will not start until we get closer to the new school year. The two Sunday services will no longer be the same content. For those of you who are concerned about attending on Sunday at 6:30 p.m., because you do not feel safe driving at night; it is not getting fully dark until 8:30 or so. </span><br />
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<span style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif;">For those of you who continue to shelter at home due to special health issues, we will be praying for you and hoping to see you at the right time. As a church family we will present ourselves as living sacrifices for God's purposes and His glory. This Sunday is Pentecost Sunday in which we remember the beginning of the church and the indwelling of the Holy Spirit in the lives of those that Jesus saves by grace through faith.</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif;">David Turner</span>Pastor David Turnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08758742607299611718noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6605384459440897605.post-39689842271031727132020-04-27T14:51:00.000-07:002020-04-27T14:58:18.294-07:00It's Time For Church With Wise Precautions<br />
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and the Governor the Guidance for Houses of Worship During the Covid-19 Crisis document.
In addition, we listened to the Governors presentation about the phases of opening
Texas. The presentation today affirms that the counties cannot supersede these guidelines
unless there is a spike in these virus cases in our county. For this reason, we
are confident to re-open public worship at Little Cypress Baptist Church on
Sunday May 3rd. This does not include Sunday school or any other meetings that
can be done remotely. It is possible to schedule meetings now, that are socially
distanced and you will be notified when these become available in the future.<o:p></o:p></span><br />
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<span style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif;">We had a dress rehearsal this past Sunday to see how we
would establish social distancing as attendees entered the building. We
determined the best way to set up the worship area to maintain social distancing
for family groups and individuals. We determined the best way to dismiss these
family groups and individuals to maintain social distancing. The new G-18 guidelines
ask us on pages 39-41, to maintain social distancing throughout your time at
the church. This was confirmed in the news briefing when the Governor answered
a question about mandating masks. In his response to a reporter he said that no
one can legally mandate wearing a mask. The same G-18 guidelines for individuals
says on page 20: “Consistent with the actions taken by many individuals across the
state, consider wearing a cloth face covering (over nose and mouth) when
entering a business, or when within 6 feet of another person who is not a
member of the individual’s household. If available, individuals should consider
warning non-medical grade face masks.” <b>So, as we socially distance, you have
the option of wearing a mask or not wearing one. <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>See PDF: </b><a href="https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgov.texas.gov%2Fuploads%2Ffiles%2Forganization%2Fopentexas%2FOpenTexas-Report.pdf&data=02%7C01%7C%7Caf54e4209e7744a2f21108d7eaf3816c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637236203872581747&sdata=8AOT5CFSFPSsqNLdJJH3Za%2FEkk3p5ptEfvbhRHb9h%2Bk%3D&reserved=0">https://gov.texas.gov/uploads/files/organization/opentexas/OpenTexas-Report.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif;">As a part of the earlier G-16 guidelines we were also encouraged
to create a worship service that would focus on those 65 and older. We have
decided to provide such a service for this age group, but we will not discourage
anyone from attending. The worship service will be held at 5 p.m. but only
during this transitional time. The content will be the same as the 10:30 a.m.
service. We will practice the same precautions as the morning worship at entry,
with seating, and with departure. We will continue having a Facebook Live
worship livestream, as well as the archived version which is found on the website.
We hope this helps you establish a plan for your participation in worship at LCBC.
We will make adjustments as we walk through each phase of opening Texas. Continue
to pray for your staff and Deacons as we work out these details. </span><o:p></o:p><br />
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<span style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif;">We have not cancelled the revival that we scheduled earlier this year. The dates for the revival are May 17-20 with a leadership seminar on May 16th. All of these events will be socially distanced. Our guest preacher is Randall DeVille of Falcon, Colorado. Randall grew up in Lake Charles, Louisiana. A member of our church who had heard him preach in his home church came to Church Council with a recommendation that he be our preacher for meetings that we pray will lead to revival in our lives. He is Pastor of Falcon Baptist Church.</span></div>
<br />Pastor David Turnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08758742607299611718noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6605384459440897605.post-88161313196558641882020-03-31T11:34:00.000-07:002020-03-31T11:34:07.705-07:00Great Days, Hard Days, and Faith In Uncertainty<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">As we approach Resurrection Sunday on April 12th we are reminded that this coming Sunday would be the Triumphal Entry into Jerusalem for Jesus and His disciples. This appearance of Messiah coming into Jerusalem was prophesied and the religious leaders should have known that the time for Messiah had come. It was an amazing day! The people called out Hosanna as they took branches from the palm trees and waved them or laid them on the road. Children celebrated and the religious leaders fumed. What was a horrible day for the religious leaders in their rejection and unbelief of the cornerstone of their faith would become a horrible day for the followers of Jesus very soon. </span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Does that sound familiar? So many of us said goodbye to 2019 with the hope and expectation that this year would be better. It seemed that a biblical worldview was now more acceptable because of the people in the White House. The economy was booming and most everyone had jobs. Families were so busy and the bread winners often had too many hours on the job. The constant politics were disturbing if one paid attention to them, but it seemed that things were becoming more stable. How many of you even knew where Wuhan, China was in October of 2019? Now our family life, church life, school life, vacation plans, job stability, date nights, everything has changed because of a virus that we cannot even see except for pictures from a microscope. Some people are suffering more than others because of the loss of loved ones or the stress of work in medical and service professions. But what does this have to do with Jesus and the Triumphal Entry?</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">That same Jesus, resurrected from the dead and alive forever more is the Lord of Life! He knows our great days, our hard days, and our days of uncertainty. He is the source of our faith. In prayer, we can cast all of our anxieties upon Him and know that He cares for us. (1 Peter 5: 6-7) Jesus reminds us that in this world we will have trouble but that we should take courage because He has overcome the world. (John 16:33) He understands what we are going through and He loves us. He also has called us to love one another, which is best seen in how we minister to each others needs. This is our triumph. No matter what we go through Jesus has promised to never leave us or forsake us even in our tribulations. Praise God for His grace, mercy, and love. Remember to share that grace, mercy, and love with others because helping others by staying in contact and being honest about our own needs and concerns will help us all get through this together!</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><br /></span>Pastor David Turnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08758742607299611718noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6605384459440897605.post-81912402523830469392020-03-27T14:26:00.000-07:002020-03-27T14:26:31.724-07:00Loving Gospel PreppingI heard it on the news last night on Channel 6. A large cult group made a major contribution to a local food bank. The food bank was happy to have the donation and the news was happy to give credit to the large cult group. In this way, this cult builds a reputation as caring people. So, what is wrong with that? As this cult builds its reputation, it gains more opportunities to spread their false teachings. They can't be so bad some will think even though their Jesus is a false Jesus and their salvation is a false salvation. How do we know that their teaching is false? All it takes is a Bible to see that their Jesus is not the Jesus of the Bible. Their Jesus was a man that attained to Godhood. He came into existence as a result of God the Father having sex with Mary. God the Father had also attained to godhood, and by being one of them you can attain to godhood also. That is not in your Bible, so they will tell you that your Bible is corrupted and their extra books will straighten things out for you. In addition, you will actually be saved by doing good works. The Gospel is that Jesus did all of the work for our salvation and we receive Him by faith thereby being saved by Him and Him alone. So these people are all around us and even have a spike in our community. They are nice people. But they are also some of the best preppers in the world. They have all kinds of food and resources so that they can 'take care' of people in times of crisis.<br />
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So why won't Christians live a more sustainable life so they would be prepared to help the people around them in need? Could we stop living on all of our income, and save a little money in the form of food and supplies we could have on hand? Wouldn't that give us the ear of people in need so that we would be able to share the true Jesus and the true Gospel? Yes it would. So what will you do? Prepping is not hoarding. If you grow it, can it, store it, and share it, it is not hoarding. If you buy something when there is not a shortage, that is not hoarding. If you buy things you and your family eat all of the time and rotate the products to maintain freshness, that is not hoarding. But let us not be guilty of hoarding the Gospel of salvation by faith alone through Christ Jesus alone. We can plant those seeds anywhere, everyday.<br />
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What are preppers thinking about in our area today? They should be thinking of the needs of others around them and how they can help. In addition, you should be thinking about the next opportunity to be ready. We don't know what all of those difficulties might be but one of those potential situations is hurricane season. You and I know what will happen when the first storm hits the Gulf. That's right- hoarding! Get appropriate supplies for hurricane season before June. If you do not know what these supplies are you can find a list for most any circumstance at the FEMA website. If you don't find it there, then send me an email and I will get you specific resources for your planning.<br />
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DavidPastor David Turnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08758742607299611718noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6605384459440897605.post-34239418712868106922020-03-23T10:48:00.000-07:002020-03-23T10:48:04.253-07:00The Lord's Supper Observance for March 29, 2020<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">We are all dealing with the changes that the voluntary quarantine has brought because of the Covid-19 virus. We want to aid our church family with a sense of normalcy during these times. For that reason, we will still have the Lord's Supper observance which will be posted on Facebook Live and the delayed recording available through the church website, if the Lord wills. The next paragraph is a notification that we will be sending through out the church family. It is not an intended activity to partake of the Lord's Supper away from a church family, but this method, we believe, will be true to the intent of the local body of Christ remembering what Jesus did for us in the sacrifice of His body and blood on the cross for the salvation of all who would believe.</span><br />
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The Lord’s Supper March 29<sup>th</sup><o:p></o:p></div>
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Little Cypress Baptist Church will be having our remembrance
of the Lord Supper this Sunday in our 10:30 am service. If you are able to join
us on Facebook Live or through the delayed broadcast through the website, we
invite you to participate. The two elements of the Lord’s Supper are a bread
and the fruit of the vine. These are symbols for the body and blood of Jesus
that which He provided for our salvation as the fulfillment of Passover. The amount used is always small so that the focus is on the symbol, and not on our satisfaction with an amount. The
Lord’s Supper does not save anyone, but it is for the saved, so if you observe
it with us at home, please keep that in mind. The bread can be literally any
bread product which will represent to you His body. The cup can be any appropriate
representation. Missionaries have used things with great dignity and without sacrilegious
intent such as grape cola, because it was germ free as a bottled product. Certainly,
the real issue is one’s attitude, which could be a cause of discipline from God
because of a flippant attitude. For this reason, we encourage you to read through
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<br />Pastor David Turnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08758742607299611718noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6605384459440897605.post-72647374231263854192020-03-21T09:33:00.000-07:002020-03-21T09:33:00.183-07:00Can A Preacher Say That...A Really Big Dog!I have been coming across a lot of people who are having a time imagining a virus on their gas pump or the loaf of bread that the bread truck driver, who has Co-vid19 and doesn't know it yet, just put on the shelves. If you can avoid being offended and just laugh along with a very serious situation, I would like to tell you a story.<br />
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"Once upon a time a race of very tall male dogs roamed the planet. You would never see them but while you were not looking they were peeing on everything. They were sneaking into Walmart, they were going to the gas pumps. It would all dry very fast and you would never know where they had been. Now the people had to decide what to touch and what not to touch. It was impossible to decide so they made a decision to wear some gloves when they pumped the gas. What would they do about opening doors? They were embarrassed to wear the gloves everywhere, so they just used hand sanitizer every once and awhile and tried to remember not to pick up food to eat or to avoid putting their fingers in their eyes, nose, or mouth. Those dogs created a terrible situation, but the people were more concerned about what people would think if they put on a mask or gloves. What good does it do to put on the mask? That is one way to keep your own fingers out of your own mouth, eyes, and nose. "The best thing to remember" the Governor said, "is to wash your hands and stay away from the people who aren't washing theirs". "Some day these dogs will go away," he said, " but be wise even if it looks weird!"<br />
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So now you have the beginning of the story, and you may add to it however you please. But remember that your God is Lord of Heaven and Earth and He has given us common sense and a promise that as Christians we will not face anything in life without Him. Now, I must go and wash my hands because I am afraid that big dog may have gotten to my keyboard.<br />
<br />Pastor David Turnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08758742607299611718noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6605384459440897605.post-47165677488912581962020-03-20T11:23:00.000-07:002020-03-20T11:23:21.812-07:00Is It Too Late To Be A Prepper?Welcome to the educational phase of becoming a 'prepper'. You should be taking notes "in your spare time" of what you wish you now had in your home to help you with this crisis. In your spare time you might also want to watch a few YouTube videos on basics of prepping. Most people want to skip past the basics of having a storage of food and water and sources for replenishing them. Most of the time we are looking at generators for hurricane season, and new monster truck for the next flood, you get the point. But what is prepping, really?<br />
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What can I grow, buy, and appropriately store when those items are not being hoarded? What can I do that makes a difference in my families food security and safety any time? We make prepping an expensive process but it can be as simple as making product adjustments. For example, if I buy only brand name food products because they are 'the best', could I get two cans store brand green beans for the price of one can of brand name products? What things could you cut back on that are non essentials to put some real food in the pantry? Simple things make a difference. You don't need a generator to run your can opener if you have a manual can opener.<br />
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How difficult are your circumstances now? It will be hard to prep if you don't have any cash flow at all. Do you know how to barter time and services or additional products? Trading some of your time could be bartered to borrow the tools to put in a garden while you are going to pressure wash their house in return. You can see an earlier blog on activating your children and grandchildren who are stuck at home instead of being in school. Do you know how to put in a garden and could help someone else do that and as a result get the unused seeds, use of the tools, or something they have like Toilet Paper!<br />
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Gardening is not a one time success thing for most people. It takes some time to get everything to grow especially with the crazy rains we have been having. One thing is certain, the nation make it through World War II with what were called Victory Gardens. Let me share a testimony about prepping that is not my own. A friend told me that God began to put on his heart the need to store food in large enough amounts to help take care on his family and friends. He continued to pray about the situation and ask God to show him how to do this work. He did not know what to do but one day while he was at work, a man came to him and asked him if he could use some five gallon food grade buckets with lids. God was at work in that situation and my friend recognized it immediately. Beans, rice, oxygen absorber packets started coming together and he has food storage that will be good for 25 years! In Experiencing God terms, it is a matter of asking God to direct you and then paying attention like He is really going to do it.<br />
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In the meantime, do not let your faith falter as you walk through difficult financial situations. "Trust in the Lord with all of your heart and do not lean on your own understanding. In all of your ways acknowledge Him, and He will make your path straight. Proverbs 3:5-6 Sometimes hard choices have to be made to shut down the amenities of life. Jesus knows what you need to do but if you ask Him for direction, don't reject His leading. Don't keep your situation to yourself. Get prayer partners and make them aware of your changing circumstances. Preparing is a wisdom issue, not a fear issue. The basics of prepping for a Christian start with God. We can do all kinds of things that are good, but if we are not doing what God has called us to do, all of those actions may be sin. If you need any help in your situation please give us a call and we will see how God would have us respond.Pastor David Turnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08758742607299611718noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6605384459440897605.post-33753845151017049632020-03-20T10:44:00.001-07:002020-03-20T10:44:14.740-07:00What Do I Do With These Kids?What would you do with them if it was summer? At least right now you can keep them on a schedule of completing school work. Be careful with your adult leverage. Most adults move rapidly from, "Go watch TV" to, "You are grounded for the rest of your life". Kids respond to gaining privileges from appropriate actions. Earning more freedom if much better than responding to losses. There are, however, kids that will push the envelope for the sake of having your attention. Consequences need to be real. These consequences need to be consistent, not based on how you are feeling that day. If a kid feels like they can test the boundaries and the boundaries move, that encourages them to make those tests frequently. Your television may not be helping their attitude. But simple things like TV time and computer time are leverage. Cell phone use is leverage. Remember the key; don't use all of your leverage at the same time.<br />
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In their free time, what could they do that would be interesting? I don't remember a time, as a kid that I was uninterested in having money. Back in the pre-Jurassic Park period we did recycling for money. Back then it was coke bottles. Okay, okay, soft drink bottles then. We did some grass cutting and weeded flower beds and such. There were always some really old people (like 30 and older) that needed some help. Today requires serious social distancing. No using their glasses for water or using their restroom. Still, getting paid could come in handy in households that have been restricted by one or more parents being out of a job temporarily. Someone in the neighborhood might need help digging up a space in their yard to put in a garden. It is a great prepping plan for right now. Do you have a pressure washer? There are homes in our area that are still in need of a cleaning job. You could make some money or even do something for a neighbor or friend as a ministry to them.<br />
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A word to the supervising adults- supervise! Please keep in mind that sex trafficking, and other perverse activities are rampant in our culture today. Children through young adults are favorite targets. People in your community might abuse your child or grandchild and threaten them if they tell. Don't leave that child or children alone. People will use various kinds of 'bait' to draw kids in, and you don't want to have that to deal with on top of this crisis. Be there but use the time to teach them to be safe, social distance, and yet productive instead of bored. This sounds like lessons that could last a lifetime. Oh yes, if you borrow tools make certain you take them back.Pastor David Turnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08758742607299611718noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6605384459440897605.post-53442591557407171302020-03-20T09:08:00.000-07:002020-03-20T09:08:08.808-07:00Double Standard or Single Purpose?An analytical mind can sometimes be a curse. You cannot help but notice things. Your life would be so much more simple if you didn't. During this viral crisis on an international level, analytical people can not miss the double standards. On the one hand, the government wants us to keep the Learning Center open. It is a ministry of Little Cypress Baptist Church. They give us the regulations. No one is allowed in the Learning Center except the staff and the child that is being dropped off. No parents, no grandparents, no brothers or sisters. Their temperature is taken and if they do not have a fever they can come in. That is fine with us, of course, because our parents need to work and so do the LC staff. But the same people who made that decision made the decision to close the public schools. I digress. Little Cypress Baptist is then told, the same church that is the Learning Center, we should not have more than 10 people in a group. That effectively eliminates Sunday School, worship, and every other ministry program of the church. We are definitely out there on mission, but we are not supposed to assemble ourselves (Hebrews 10:23-25). We support the concept of social distancing. The problem is that the church must be considered a non essential entity for some reason in comparison to say, Walmart as one example. I was there. No one took my temperature. As I looked around I could easily count more than 10 people, some of which appeared to have come there straight from bed without changing. I saw more than 50, more than 100. They were handling things and putting them back on the shelves. They were touching the same baskets an some of them did not get the disinfectant wipe for their basket handle. No one was offended. No one said that people should not be there. I pumped gas with a dirty gas pump handle, too.<br />
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Back to the church I went with my yet unsanitized treasures. I arrived to see the Meals on Wheels program dropping off food to a group of senior adults. There they were, playing dominoes, telling stories. Why was this program allowed to continue? It is because we are trapped with a double standard. Who would take care of the children in the Learning Center if they were not there? Where would the senior adults get their lunch if they did not continue in this program? It seems that there is a single purpose. We are trying to be as careful as we all can. On the other hand we want to see needs met. This double standard is actually a dichotomy of caring. What would you do if the nation came under quarantine completely for two weeks? You would struggle to comply and try to help people the best that you could. Our church will be in the middle of that where ever they are. In the meanwhile, what about corporate worship? Are there people who are going to need to meet for corporate worship? The answer is yes. We take both sides of the double standard. Do not come to church. There will be no Sunday School, no Sunday morning breakfast, no meetings. The staff and a few volunteers will be here to carry out the worship time on video to be uploaded to the church website. But, we will not turn people who are well, and need to be in corporate worship whether they are lost or saved. Just worship at 10:30 a.m. and 6:30 p.m.. Yes, we are trapped between the double standard sides. We want to obey the authorities and those who rule over us and we do not want to forsake the assembling of ourselves (Hebrews 10:23-25) so we are turning prayerfully to the Highest Authority for His direction and we remember the Great Commandment to love the Lord your God with your whole being and your neighbor as yourself. We will not all agree on our response as church leadership to this situation because of the dichotomy. We will have to re-evaluate based on the circumstances that confront us each day. But we all agree that our desire is to honor Jesus and meet spiritual needs just like Walmart is letting in people to meet physical needs, Meals on Wheels is meeting senior adult needs, and the Learning Center is meeting childcare needs.Pastor David Turnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08758742607299611718noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6605384459440897605.post-53091218324575506772020-03-17T09:25:00.001-07:002020-03-18T10:16:03.492-07:00Some Day Syndrome<span style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif;">Why do Christians have an additional sense of uneasiness in these extraordinary circumstances that seem to be so much more common these days? I think it is because we have read ahead in the book of what is happening next. The world ridicules our biblical beliefs and often points to those beliefs as examples or our unfitness to participate in social dialogue and involvement in big decisions. Just think about all of the criticism that the Vice President of the United States has taken because of his biblical beliefs. People in Congress and the media openly expressed that he was unacceptable for the lead role in dealing with the Covid-19 event because he suggested that in addition to the medical response we might want to pray. How dare he reach out to a superior being at a time when humanism is supposed to win the day. We cannot change their reactions but how much do we hold back because we are afraid to face the same kind of ridicule or persecution? </span><br />
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<span style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif;">Some Day Syndrome works like this.... We know that there will be an effort to centralize all government into a global entity some day. Some day there will be a person that heads up that entity that will build that one world government into a personal kingdom. We see this man in the Bible as the Little Horn in Daniel, the Man of Lawlessness in 1 Thessalonians and John speaks of his as the anti-Christ. When we see the circumstances of our world driving toward global governance it makes us uneasy. Or, we know that someday there will be a one world financial system. We start seeing the globalists in the news pushing for the end of cash and a more credit card style system way back in the 1970's. We go to electronically deposited payroll and bill pay systems, and we like it because it is fast and easy. Then we have a crisis that makes it impossible to engage with our resources and we feel helpless- but only for a little while and then it is all fixed. We do not think about all of the hackers and government entities that can hinder that system. We do not think about the Chinese who are now giving social credits electronically to those who seem to deserve the blessing of government for their loyalty. It is just easier to do it this way. After all, cash is paper, and paper can pass along viruses! </span><br />
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<span style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif;">So, the uneasiness of the Some Day Syndrome sets in again. We read ahead in history in the book of Revelation and saw that the head of one world government institutes a system for buying and selling that requires nothing but a 'mark'. With the mark you are in. Without the mark you cannot buy or sell. Yes, there is that queasy feeling that our reality is moving quickly to match biblical prophesy. Now everyone has to listen to the value of socialism since it will be the only way to make government in the world 'fair' and 'effective'. Sounds like a one world government plan to me, The government will supply everything you need. They can control the ups and downs of the economy and if we need for money we will just declare that it now exists. Does that sound like a stimulus package to you? There is that uneasy feeling again.</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif;">We read the warning that the world of the future would be unrestrained in its evil. We see the evil of this world growing in areas like what is appropriate sexual behavior, and we are uneasy unless we have lost touch with the Word of God and the truth that it says what it says to us because God loves us and is trying to protect us from the wages of sin which is death. We cannot speak of these issues with the culture because who are we to say that we have the right answer. We are told that every path leads to God, and there comes that queasy feeling again. The book of Revelation also tells us about a one world religion which includes everyone. We watch the Pope and the ecumenical movements snuggle up to the Imams of Islam and that some how looks strangely familiar. Maybe we go on the internet and see the statue out front of the European Union building and it is a woman riding a beast. Yes, there is that uneasy feeling again. They call her Europa but you can find her in Revelation 17. </span><br />
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<span style="font-family: "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif;">So what are we supposed to do with this Some Day Syndrome? What if the some day of these policies and plans suddenly become our reality? In Luke 21:28 Jesus tells us that when we see these things coming to pass we should look up because our redemption is drawing near. This is not a time for fear. When the smart people see the stock market go down drastically they get ready to invest, not sell. When we see the world take a big bump in the road, it is time to watch what God is doing and be ready to join Him in His work. His work is to share Jesus with a lost and dying world. There will always be people being drawn by the Holy Spirit to salvation. We can be a part of that eternal, kingdom of God work, if we are paying attention to Him instead of that queasy, uneasy feeling that the world gives us. Look Up!</span>Pastor David Turnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08758742607299611718noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6605384459440897605.post-75487918769980319062020-03-13T08:11:00.003-07:002020-03-13T08:11:45.285-07:00Hurricane Co-vid19 <span style="font-family: Georgia, Times New Roman, serif;">There are principles of preparation that cross the type and scope of most all disasters. When a hurricane appears in the Atlantic, those of us who have gone through home reconstructions and renovation take note. Those who have not been affected in the same way may not even notice until the storm enters the Gulf of Mexico and there is a cone of expectancy pointed our way. Some people would accuse those with past experience of living in fear. Those with past experience examine their response as being wiser about what too do. It really doesn't matter for some, they think, because the chance of that storm coming right here is maybe 1%.. So what is the point? It is important to be prepared all of the time from wisdom and not fear. Those who come to our area from other parts of the country usually ask people who have been through the storms what they should do. Should they distance themselves from the threat? Should they shelter in place? Do they have the supplies to shelter in place and provide for all of their needs? Do they have special medical concerns that should affect their decision? If you are a person who has breathing issues, are prone to pneumonia, COPD, etc. the Co-vid19 virus should cause you to examine your situation carefully. It seems that the youngest in this situation are not the most vulnerable this time. I had the flu when I was in the 8th grade and was at home in bed with a 104 temperature. Believe it or not a doctor came to our house to treat me, which included a float trip in my bath tub with several trays of ice. After that week was over I went back to school for 3 days and then relapsed for another week. The additional consequences included being behind in school which required doubling up on school work though not really feeling that great. That experience is a part of my own evaluation of what an appropriate response would be for current circumstances. Don't over react, don't be complacent, don't worry about people's response to your choices. Make certain that you pray and listen to the wisdom of God in keeping with His Word. Proverbs 3:5-6 says, "Trust in the Lord with all your heart and do not lean on your own understanding. In all your ways acknowledge Him and He will make your path straight." </span>Pastor David Turnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08758742607299611718noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6605384459440897605.post-10241966829817000422020-02-28T11:31:00.003-08:002020-02-28T11:31:49.627-08:00A Paper Towel and Sunglasses!<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">We are all hearing so much about one specific virus right now. It's interesting that we hear about the flu and colds and stomach bugs all of the time, but every once and awhile a new bug comes along and we are awaiting the potential of a devastating pandemic. The reason that these expectations are alive and well is because millions of lives have been lost in the past from pandemic situations. But are the answers to dealing with these situations really so different?</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Right now we may spend some of our day looking for N95 masks to protect ourselves from the virus. By now you have noticed that the virus will remain unnamed for my purposes. With the bug everywhere, why would a mask make any difference? The instructions have always been to wash your hands and when you are finished, go wash your hands. There is great wisdom in this! But let's look at masks for just a moment. Isn't it true that I would not have to wash my hands all of the time if I would keep them out of my mouth and eyes? I know some of you are habitual finger lickers, as you turn almost every page with a lick of the fingers. Some of you are table wipers. You take the napkin and wipe of a spot on your table in the restaurant and then use the same napkin (on the same side) to wipe your mouth. I hope you are laughing by now.</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">The fact is, you could tape a paper towel over your face and nose and put on sunglasses and you would protect yourself from the worst source of germs- your self! No fingers scratching in your eyes. No subtle nose picking. No finger licking. Sure, you would still need to wash those hands before you handled food or fed the kids, but that is much less often. How many people touched that gas pump handle that you just grabbed? How many people just used the tongs at the buffet restaurant? Yuck! yet none of that would be in your system if you did not put it there?</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">The spiritual application might be that the world is going to be filled with all kinds of things that are sins against God. The personal question I must answer is how much of that am I choosing to pick up and put into my own spiritual system without even thinking? Being a student of the Word of God can prepare me to protect myself and my family from things that are going to create spiritual sickness and trauma. I thank Jesus that He is in His disciples and that His Spirit is actively teaching me what the Word of God means and how to apply it in my current circumstances and culture. </span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">So, buy a mask to block those unchecked sneezes and coughs, and wash those hands. Keep your fingers out of your eyes, nose and mouth. Clean those surfaces with appropriate solutions of chlorine bleach and water (google it). But remember to be washed by the water of the Word (Ephesians 5:26) See you Sunday!</span>Pastor David Turnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08758742607299611718noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6605384459440897605.post-64889442815020498292020-02-26T13:29:00.001-08:002020-02-26T13:29:36.164-08:00This Is Just A Test...Everyone wants to know if the latest pandemic or military threat is real or contrived by political goals. Did China release a pandemic on their own people accidentally? Did they do this intentionally so that the protests for a more Democratic form of government would disappear from the news and go away? Only God knows. The novel corona virus 19 is real, but is it the next killer of millions like the Spanish flu of 1918? We don't know. We see China say that the number of new cases is in decline, but can they be trusted on that? Can I help you swing your focus to something more productive?<br />
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Do you remember hearing that tone on your TV or radio and a scratchy audio message coming on to tell you that what you are seeing and hearing is just a test of the emergency broadcast system? That mass communication was created during the cold war to give the citizens of the US of A a chance to respond to a potential nuclear attack. The more productive message for us today is why don't we go ahead and get a few things together now instead of fighting for the resources later? Today, batteries, flashlights, bottled water, plywood, hurricane clips, generators, and gasoline are available everywhere. But the first tropical storm that develops in the Gulf of Mexico and heads our way will set off a feeding frenzy for supplies. We will be battling for tarps and something to nail them into place after a storm.<br />
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So what if this serious pandemic fizzles out, and the next potential category 5 hurricane goes somewhere else? If we want to avoid the negative experience of struggling through the next crisis why won't we do some simple things right now? A friend of mine was discussing his failures with the stock market recently in a humorous way. He said, "I am really good at buying when the price is high and selling when the price is low". This seems to be one of our grave weaknesses as the human race. I can put off doing anything about the next crisis until one shows up. I can get around to things like God and the eternal destiny of my soul until it looks like I don't have any other choice. Little Cypress Baptist Church has been helping people prepare for these two events and everything in between for a long time. Of first importance is to make peace with God through His Son, Jesus. You cannot do this successfully on your own terms. You must come to God on His terms having acknowledged that you are a sinner like the rest of us, and that you believe Jesus is God's plan to save sinners.<br />
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You would understand that speaking to Him (what people call prayer) and telling Him that you want to surrender your life Him and to receive Jesus as your Savior and Master of your life means that your life will change if you are sincere. You will want to see Him bring His plans and His ways into your life even though you will still experience temptations. But as a new disciple of Jesus you will have every resource you need if you are praying, applying biblical truth, and involving yourself in a church that really believes and lives out the Gospel. If a church is unwilling to preach, teach, and live what Jesus has given to His church in the Bible, steer clear of such fake news churches. The most positive message is the one with all of the truth even if some of that truth is demanding.Pastor David Turnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08758742607299611718noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6605384459440897605.post-65478314154643974022015-02-10T17:09:00.001-08:002015-02-10T17:09:51.540-08:00Crisis Preparation Saves Money And Can Be FunIf you have not read the post before this one, it would be good to read it first. But if you don't have time for that, we will say that there are a number of biblical reasons for making preparations for a longer period than just this week for food and water at your home. FEMA also has noted reasons that the government says you will not be able to count on them for a undetermined period of time based on the level of crisis one might face. All of that said, let's look at motivation for Crisis Preparation. <br />
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One problem that we face on this subject is that there is a drive for normalcy that tells us that we won't have problems like others face. Families all over the world today are being faced with displacement from their homes by Islamic radicals, unexpected snow storms, and floods. This is the time of year that we begin to anticipate weather transitions that bring severe thunderstorms and tornadoes. Hurricane season starts in four months. And yet knowing all of this we assume that everything will be just the same for us because we are 'US'. <br />
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If people in crisis were asked what they wish they had done before the crisis, most of us could guess what they would say. "I wish I had something to feed my family and something to quench their thirst that is safe to drink. I wish I had shelter for my family and something to keep them warm in this winter cold. I wish I had a source of light, of water to wash with, and protection for security. I wish I had something to keep these mosquitos off and some sunscreen to deal with this sun as I work in recovery." These examples could go on for a long time if you put yourself in the shoes of others. <br />
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Isn't it 'tempting fate' or 'jinxing ourselves' or 'just being negative' to think about these things? No, for two reasons. First, as Christians we should not base our life on superstitions like fate and jinxes. That is for baseball players and such. God has already told us to make provision for our families. We are not supposed to worry about what we will eat or drink. Jesus told us that Himself. I doubt, however, that He told any farmers to stop farming because that was a lack of faith. I doubt that He told any women to stop stockpiling the food from the harvest to use through the winter and spring while the new crops came up. Worrying is a sin; working is not. <br />
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Second, Crisis Preparation done properly saves money. If you buy foods you will normally eat, then you will only be getting ahead on your purchases. You do not have to buy MRE's and such to be preparing for a crisis. So, if your family eats meat, then buy meat when it is on sale. Put part of the meat away in your freezer, or even better, in mason jars that do not require refrigeration. The Crisis Expo will show you how to do that if you sign up for that class in advance (883-8905). You can also learn about saving water in the Basic Preparation class at the Expo. If you are going to eat a lot of green beans through a year, then when they are on sale, buy more than you need that week or month. You can do this with all kinds of foods other than fresh vegetables and fruit. <br />
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Purchasing food in bulk or for storage requires watching the dates of food to keep the oldest cans up front to be used next. However, this method saves money because families are less likely to go out to eat if they know they have food at home. In fact, always having food on hand means that families that plan ahead can put something in the crock pot that will be ready to eat when they get home. That takes the pressure off of parents to get food ready when they are already tired. <br />
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Eating out is the most expensive way to feed your family. If you hate to do dishes, then use paper or plastic plates and bowls. Using throw away dishes is still significantly cheaper than eating out or doing fast food at home. Don't expect children or youth to agree. Sometimes we have to be the responsible adult and save the budget. I wish I had done this better when my own children were at home.<br />
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Needless to say, if we knew how to grow our own food and canned it, there would a sense of accomplishment along with having some of the freshest food in town. If we can the food in mason jars, we can enjoy it until the harvest time next year. Everyone seems to understand energy independence when we talk about oil and gas from other countries. Some how we need to grasp that food energy independence is viable for most families. <br />
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Gardening can be a family activity that results in sustainable living. If you do not know how to garden, find a friend that does. Join in on their garden one year and help them while you learn. Be with them for the whole process from plot planning to dirt preparation to seed selection, planting seedlings, weeding, mulching, bug issues, plant blights, fertilizing, watering, and harvesting. Don't buy a book and spend hundreds of dollars if someone you know can help you put your garden together for much less. The last thing I usually hear is that 'We are too busy already'. <br />
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How many of your activities are optional? Learning life long self sustaining practices may just be more important in the long run. I know that children may not be interested at first. My own grandchildren have changed their tune on this. Though they cannot be around all of the time, when they are hear they want to know what is in the garden. This year they helped me dig my sweet potatoes. We had a great time! Some children are better at focusing on a task than others. One of my grandson's did a great job of helping me pull weeds. The other was not so interested, but when I told him that we might find worms, he got more involved!Pastor David Turnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08758742607299611718noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6605384459440897605.post-74329645534335175592015-01-26T09:30:00.003-08:002015-01-26T09:30:38.665-08:002015 Crisis Preparation ExpoHello Church Family and Friends,<br />
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It is time for our 5th Annual Crisis Preparation Expo for Southeast Texas and Southwest Louisiana. This event is on the third Saturday of February each year. I know that it is a surprise for some of us that many in church family are still unaware of the Expo after all this time. One dear church member who had not been involved with the event in the past noted this past Sunday that this year was the first time they had paid any attention to it. So, for those who are just becoming aware, let me catch you up on this event. The group that puts this together is all volunteer who work with me on planning. The volunteers are Christians from our area that believe in living a wise lifestyle in caring for their families. These people are not all members of our church. Some of them have professional experience in crisis preparation, but most are just grassroots practitioners. <br />
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The goal of the event is to help people know how to make common sense every day kinds of choices that would help them do well during unexpected problems. Some of this is like hurricane preparations. In other cases, it is preparedness that would serve one well if they lost their job. Some of the training is about sustainable living like gardening and animal husbandry. So, you will hear everything from FEMA recommendations on basic preparedness, to how to use solar power, or how to have your own hive of honey bees. Some of the vendors in the Expo hall will have things to help with all of these projects including things like essential oils to help with health and well being. Others will show you how to find edible plants in the woods, or teach hunting and fishing for those who like to learn survival skills.<br />
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So how much does it cost? There is no charge for the event. That's right, the classes and the Expo hall viewing is free. We really want people to come so that we can give them information about being prepared not only for life but for eternity, too! Many of our vendors will be sharing the Gospel and the class teachers will also. If you have lost friends, bring them along. One question that we get asked from time to time is whether there will be a gun show. The answer is 'No'. We will not risk the church family or our guests with the possible issues that could come from this addition. We do believe in protecting the families that God has given us, but there are other gun shows and stores in the community. We will have people on site that are concealed handgun class instructors that will be telling people what they might want to know to get started in the security area. <br />
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But one might ask, "Isn't all of this a lack of faith?" I usually find out upon asking that these people have life insurance, health insurance, auto insurance, home insurance, flood insurance, fire insurance, dental insurance, cell phone insurance, etc. I suppose all of that insurance is a lack of faith too, if food insurance, water insurance, heat insurance and light insurance are a lack of faith. No, the scripture calls us to take care of our families. In fact, to not take care of our families needs makes us worse that an unbeliever in the eyes of God. (1Timothy 5:8) The book of Proverbs is full of verses calling us to work hard and store up for needs as an agricultural community would. We do not have the guarantee that the grocery stores will always be full or that we will always have a job. Proverbs 27 12 says "<em>A prudent person foresees the danger ahead and takes precautions. The simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences.”</em><br />
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I hope that you visit this blog again later this week as I present some of the reasons we encourage people to prepare and the common sense thinking behind it all.<br />
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God Bless,<br />
David TurnerPastor David Turnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08758742607299611718noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6605384459440897605.post-87780519426167849992014-08-08T13:43:00.003-07:002014-08-08T13:53:10.379-07:00Who Is ISIS and what do we do about the Christian persecution? For those of us who have basically good health and circumstances there is a sense that life is as it should be. Our problems are not so big in light of the people around us that are dealing with cancer, grief, a job loss, etc. But today in our world, at what is supposed to be the most advanced technological and enlightened period of human history, children's heads are being cut off because they are identified as Christians. A city of 50,000 people were all forced to leave their city and flee to the mountains of Kurdish neighbors in northern Iraq. Why? Because they claim to be Christians. You and I know that all of them are not Christians, but they are identified as Christians by the ISIS, or the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria. These radical Sunni Muslims are not only killing Christians, they are killing Shiite Muslims and other non-Sunni or non-Muslim groups. <br />
We know from Matthew 24 that persecution of Christians is a hallmark of Christian eschatology. The passage is not fulfilled because there has always been Christian persecution. It is fulfilled by the fact that the persecution will grow like birth pangs until the Lord returns. Matthew 24 was spoken to the disciples of Jesus and recorded as a revelation of God for today, as well. So, as usual, the Word of God will be fulfilled as it is now. What can we do about it? The first thing is that we pray for these people. We ask God's will to be done in the lives of these people and that God will intervene on their behalf. Those who are truly born again believers can count on the promise of Romans 8:28, as long as you understand that verse in light of all eternity and not just our short lives in this world. We cannot be called to suffer with Christ and not have suffering. That is one reason we are called to witness no matter how it makes us feel. If nothing else we can suffer through the discomfort of confronting someone with the love of God in the gospel. The next things we can do are not as powerful, but also needed. You can give to the humanitarian efforts through that Baptist Disaster Relief or Samaritan's Purse. The Voice of the Martyrs' often gives people the opportunity to directly encourage those facing persecution. If the Lord tarries, Christians in the USA will move from being politically incorrect and opposed to persecuted, as well. Let us make the most of our opportunities to meet needs while we can. Here are some sites: <a href="http://www.baptistrelief.org/">www.baptistrelief.org</a> <a href="http://www.samaritanspurse.org/">www.samaritanspurse.org</a> <a href="http://www.persecution.com/">www.persecution.com</a> which is the Voice of the Martyrs site.Pastor David Turnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08758742607299611718noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6605384459440897605.post-62744636530493535632013-11-05T14:42:00.002-08:002013-11-05T19:01:52.907-08:00What This Motion Changes: from the Special Called Conference Blog #2Maybe we can best answer this by noting what it does not change. The motion passed does not change any of the youth, children, or preschool activities of our church. It does not change the possiblity of people meeting to pray with a prayer list, or no prayer list on Wednesday nights at 6 p.m. It does not change any of the schedule for Sunday afternoon. So what does it change?<br />
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The priority of Sunday evening worship will now be prayer. That does not mean that we will not sing. It does not mean that there will be no scripture, or even a limited "sermonette". It simply means that all ages will meet in the worship center at 6:30 p.m. with an emphasis on praying corporately to God. We may have testimonies of answered prayer. It is not for us to tell God what we plan to do. We are desiring to "protect" the priority of corporate prayer at a time when a significant number of people can choose to participate. Some might wonder if we are going to keep some people away because it will get dark and some cannot drive at night. If one of our church family has this problem on Sunday night, they would also have that problem on Wednesday night. We need to respond to their need by providing them transportation if they ask. Some anticipate that this change will "kill" the Sunday night service. I believe that is why a provision has been included for the church council to evaluate in July and make a reccomendation to the church for continuation, revision, or reversal. What is to be gained by all of this?<br />
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The people who work with our preschoolers, children, and youth, on Sunday during discipleship time will be able to attend a discipleship class. People who desire to continue the Wednesday night prayer emphasis will be able to do so, and we will discuss this in prayer meeting before the January 1st transition. Those who pray on Wednesdays as a group are encouraged to be a part of the Sunday evening <strong><em>corporate</em></strong> prayer time. This would increase the number of people who pray, as well as the time spent in prayer throughout the body. One comment was that some who do not know how to pray might learn through active participation or listening to others. No one will ever be required to pray aloud; not even in a small group. Another potential addition would be those guests mentioned that would come to Wednesday night dinner and then stay for a class. One might hope that the music ministry would benefit by more people staying on Wednesday night who could be prospects for the adult choir. One has asked whether there could be a Wednesday evening worship service. The answer is yes, if the church sees the need in out biblical priorities for those who are shift workers, for example. The service would be attended by those not participating in other groups. This provides many new options, but are there concerns?<br />
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One concern would be an "every man for himself" mentality, where people feel free to just do what ever they please. We had to deal with this during Sunday School over the years. There was the Hall class and the Burnt offerings class of years gone by. If we are going to be honest about biblical priorites, we cannot set up little visiting sessions (see gossip in the Bible), or 'Bible studies' that have not been approved by the church council. In years gone by, we have had groups establish themselves to teach the latest fad theology or a renewed ancient heresy. If there is a legitimate need, then those involved can enhance its legitimacy by presenting it to church council. As pastor, my job description has always included Adult Education. I will be happy to meet with anyone to help them with a perceived need for our church.<br />
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One last note. As a Southern Baptist church, we can have motions made in new business in any regular conference, to change anything but the Constitution and By Laws. We could vote to paint the church purple. We could vote to require everyone to wear blue jeans. When we make a motion for consideration by the body of Christ, we must do it with as much care as we would expect to show if we were responsible for writing and preaching the sermon next Sunday morning. The unity of the church is not a matter to take lightly. Having one's way with church policy or scheduling is never the goal. We are supposed to seek the mind of Christ for His church. He is the head of the body. We should not be shy about the process of discovering His will as a church family. If you are still uncomforable with the parlimentary process, that is designed to maintain peace in the process of working through change, please let me know. I will be happy to present to any group or individual the 'basic' process which all orderly SBC churches use. I love you all and continue to pray for the Lord's leadership as we walk down this road together.<br />
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Your Pastor, <br />
David Turner<br />
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P.S. I have sensed that some believe the motion that was presented may have been coached in advance, by me, or someone on the staff, who also wanted these changes made. I assure you that this is not the case. There would be judgment on anyone who spoke of allowing God to lead, who then manipulated the situation to make it turn out as they pleased. Christian maturity should drive us all away from 'church politics'. God bless you all.Pastor David Turnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08758742607299611718noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6605384459440897605.post-84145523250267243382013-11-05T13:43:00.000-08:002013-11-05T19:02:23.132-08:00Special Church Conference Schedule Changes from November 2013 Blog #1It always unsettles me when there are changes in the church schedule. Many people do not choose to participate in church conference where things can be changed significantly at any time. This is certainly not the case with our most recent conference. Let's examine the lead up to conference.<br />
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In our October conference there was a discussion of potential schedule changes that would provide more options for adults on Wednesday nights. A change in the schedule effects all of the other activities throughout the week. We agreed in conferenence (which was running long) that we would pray for two weeks and come back to discuss a way forward on the issue. At this point I personally distributed a multiple page evaluation on the issue from three years before. That is right, we were examining this issue three years ago, even before Dan Calkins was on staff. The issues discussed in that piece were related to the priorities given the various activities of the church.<br />
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That document reminded everyone that we "protect" the priority of worship by allowing no other activities during worship and by discouraging people even cooking and setting up during worship for a lunch that is to follow. We "protect" the Bible study of Sunday School from other activities. We "protect" discipleship time from the over reach of committee meetings which begin an hour earlier than discipleship. We "protect" outreach on Monday nights by prohibiting the calendaring of church events in conflict with visitation from 6 to 7 p.m. This makes perfect sense because these are biblical priorities. It makes as much sense to "protect" the biblical priority of corporate prayer. We have accomplished this for many years by setting aside the time from 6 to 7 p.m. on Wednesday nights. So why was there a motion to change the schedule as we have it?<br />
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Wednesday night is a time that the church family thought we could help each other make it to the evening events by having a dinner. Pastor Woody Jackson started the dinner and even cooked it for some time. Eventually others took a shift to relieve him of this work. For the last several years there have been adults who said they would like to invite others to the Wednesday night dinner and activities but did not think that unbelievers would appreciate the prayer meeting. Since we were "protecting" the time slot, they did not see an alternative. Some took it upon themselves to create alternate activities and even prayer times without the approval of the church. Ultimately, this needed to be a matter of prayer so that we could discover the mind of Christ on this scheduling issue.<br />
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After encouraging the church to pray through this period of time, and discussing it on Sundays including the multipage document that was distributed, I hoped that serious prayer was going up to God on this issue. As your pastor, I know some of you prayed carefully about this matter. We did not need the best of our opinions, but the very best direction we could receive from God to maximize our schedule and protect biblical priorities. But the last church conference had displayed a weakness in our ability to communicate clearly.<br />
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Because there were several people who did not understand the parlimentary process of creating a motion to accomplish business in conference, I offer a special training this past Sunday at 3 p.m. before the called conference to make certain that anyone with questions could learn the process. We displayed the time on the media slides before the service and published the time in the Cypress Heart. We wanted to make certain that no one was intimidated by the parlimentary process. This must not have been an issue because only six people attended and two of them already had a pretty good idea of the simple process. So, when the called conference began the first person to address the chair presented a motion that was corrected and was finalized to say, <strong><em>"I move that we move church-wide prayer meeting to the Sunday evening worship time beginning January 1, 2014, allowing the children and youth to participate, for a period of six months when it will be evaluated by church council</em></strong>." One question for clarification resulted in a description of the change being like the special prayer events we had on Sunday nights previous to the last election. After the amendments were final, there was the call to vote first by voice and then by a show of hands for greater accuracy. The motion passed. But, what does it mean? What will now change? Have we discovered a way forward that protects the biblical priorities and reflects the mind of Christ. That is what will unfold in the days to come. I will outline some possiblities in my next blog.<br />
Your Pastor,<br />
David TurnerPastor David Turnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08758742607299611718noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6605384459440897605.post-13670687926376861932011-08-04T12:03:00.000-07:002011-08-04T13:20:34.385-07:00The Stock Market WarningsIf you have watched the stock market drop 410 points on the Dow today and hopefully have been able to watch it come back up, were you concerned? If is important to pay attention to the signs built into the economy, It is even more important to pay attention to the signs or warnings built into the Word of God. Isaiah 1:15-20 reads,<span lang="en-us">“So when you </span><sup><span lang="en-us"><a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=6605384459440897605#_ftn1" name="_ftnref1" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn1;" title=""></a></span></sup><span lang="en-us">spread out your hands </span><i><span lang="en-us">in prayer,</span></i><span lang="en-us"> </span><span lang="en-us">I will hide My eyes from you; </span><span lang="en-us">Yes, even though you </span><sup><span lang="en-us"><a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=6605384459440897605#_ftn3" name="_ftnref3" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn3;" title=""></a></span></sup><span lang="en-us">multiply prayers, </span><span lang="en-us">I will not listen. </span><strong><span lang="en-us">Your hands are </span><sup><span lang="en-us"><a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=6605384459440897605#_ftn5" name="_ftnref5" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn5;" title=""></a></span></sup></strong><span lang="en-us"><strong>covered with blood</strong>. </span><span lang="en-us">“</span><sup><span lang="en-us"><a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=6605384459440897605#_ftn6" name="_ftnref6" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn6;" title=""></a></span></sup><span lang="en-us">Wash yourselves, </span><sup><span lang="en-us"><a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=6605384459440897605#_ftn7" name="_ftnref7" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn7;" title=""></a></span></sup><span lang="en-us">make yourselves clean; </span><span lang="en-us">Remove the evil of your deeds from My sight. </span><span lang="en-us">Cease to do evil, </span><span lang="en-us">Learn to do good; </span><span lang="en-us">Seek justice, </span><span lang="en-us">Reprove the ruthless, </span><span lang="en-us">Defend the orphan, </span><span lang="en-us">Plead for the widow. </span><br />
<span lang="en-us">“Come now, and </span><sup><span lang="en-us"><a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=6605384459440897605#_ftn13" name="_ftnref13" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn13;" title=""></a></span></sup><span lang="en-us">let us reason together,” </span><span lang="en-us">Says the </span><span lang="en-us"><span style="font-variant: small-caps;">Lord</span></span><span lang="en-us">, </span><span lang="en-us">“</span><sup><span lang="en-us"><a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=6605384459440897605#_ftn14" name="_ftnref14" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn14;" title=""></a></span></sup><span lang="en-us">Though your sins are as scarlet, </span><span lang="en-us">They will be as white as snow; </span><span lang="en-us">Though they are red like crimson, </span><span lang="en-us">They will be like wool. </span><span lang="en-us">“</span><sup><span lang="en-us"><a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=6605384459440897605#_ftn15" name="_ftnref15" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn15;" title=""></a></span></sup><span lang="en-us">If you consent and obey, </span><br />
<span lang="en-us">You will </span><sup><span lang="en-us"><a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=6605384459440897605#_ftn16" name="_ftnref16" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn16;" title=""></a></span></sup><span lang="en-us">eat the best of the land; </span><span lang="en-us">“But if you refuse and rebel, </span><span lang="en-us">You will be </span><sup><span lang="en-us"><a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=6605384459440897605#_ftn17" name="_ftnref17" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn17;" title=""></a></span></sup><span lang="en-us">devoured by the sword.” </span><br />
<span lang="en-us">Truly, </span><sup><span lang="en-us"><a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=6605384459440897605#_ftn18" name="_ftnref18" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn18;" title=""></a></span></sup><span lang="en-us">the mouth of the </span><span lang="en-us"><span style="font-variant: small-caps;">Lord</span></span><span lang="en-us"> has spoken." NASB95)</span><br />
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<span lang="en-us">If our nation does not stop aborting millions of children, God will not answer our prayer for the nation because we have so much blood on our hands. He will turn us over to judgment. As you pray on Saturday, pray for God to bring conviction on the nation for its sin and this atrocity. As you pray, are you making any preparations for your family? Remember, it does not matter how much money you have if there is nothing left to buy. These last days are important times for Christians to be alert. We need to fight becoming deceived by those who only want our money, time, and influence. We need to devote ourselves to pray, the knowing the Word of God, and to being ready to meet needs for our families and those around us even if it is inconvenient to us.</span>Pastor David Turnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08758742607299611718noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6605384459440897605.post-52372153450450617422011-08-04T11:49:00.000-07:002011-08-04T13:19:28.220-07:00Cults Revival in ClosingImagine a pyramid where the preponderance of the pyramid is comprised of people who are the base. Imagine the top of the pyramid is taking advantage of those on the bottom. Those on the bottom do not know what those on the top really believe. Those on the top take their money, their time, and their influence to create a powerful organization that they control. They are willing to let the bottom the pyramid believe what they will, but are watching for those who are like minded to move up through the organization. Famous and powerful people have been a part of their organization, presidential candidates, evangelists, you name it. But these people obviously do not believe what the apologists say the national organization believes. It is confusing why those people are saying such things about their organization. Well, it should be confusing, because they have not been told the truth. <br />
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I hope that this incongruity would cause those who are in the bottom of the pyramid to investigate what is being said about those at the top. The North American Mission Board has done exactly that with it's website: <a href="http://www.4truth.net/">www.4truth.net</a> On the left side is a menu that includes the heading New Religions and Cults. When you choose the group you are interested in make certain that you examine titles in the site that compare biblical teachings with the cult teachings. There are so many websites that add to these kinds of information including Southern Baptists like John Ankerberg, and many others.<br />
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Last, keep in mind who is more likely to lie to you. If a person has nothing to gain, but much to lose for sharing information, why would they do that? If they could just keep their mouth shut and go about their business, but they risk many things to share information- give thought to this fact. <br />
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<div style="line-height: normal; margin-left: 72pt; text-align: left; text-indent: -54pt;"><span lang="en-us">"Wounds from a friend can be trusted, </span><span lang="en-us">but an enemy multiplies kisses." Proverbs 27:6 (NIV)</span></div><a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=6605384459440897605&postID=5237215345045061742#_ftn1" name="_ftnref1" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn1;" title=""><span style="vertical-align: super;"><span style="mso-special-character: footnote;"></span></span></a> <br />
<div style="mso-element: footnote-list;"><div id="ftn1" style="mso-element: footnote;"><div style="margin: 0in;"><a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=6605384459440897605&postID=5237215345045061742#_ftnref1" name="_ftn1" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn1;" title=""><span style="vertical-align: super;"><span style="mso-special-character: footnote;"></span></span></a><span id="__spanCitationData"> </span></div></div></div>Pastor David Turnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08758742607299611718noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6605384459440897605.post-20246321176977736902011-07-29T20:29:00.000-07:002011-08-04T13:12:12.023-07:00Freemasonry and Herschel HobbsOne does not have to study very long to discover that Freemasonry claims a close connection and affinity "...with the Essenes, Gnostic's, and other mystical orders" see page xiv of the introduction of the Monitor of the Lodge, Grand Lodge of Texas (1982). I would now simply point out what they hold to be true and compare that the whole counsel of the Word of God in the Old and New Testaments. That should not be upsetting to Masons since the advertisements on the websites for most grand lodges now declare that Masonry is not a secret organization. That is hard to imagine, though, since the monitors have the word "secret" and "sacred" referring to their teachings, throughout. For this reason I will use a few quotes in context. The quote above is where they connect themselves to the Gnostic's. <strong><u>Herschel Hobbs</u></strong> warned about Gnosticism, or believing in having a special knowledge about God that supersedes all other revelations, in his commentary on the Gospel of John and the Epistles of John, Hobbs notes:<br />
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<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">"It was a vicious system that cut squarely across Christian truth. Warnings against it are reflected in John's writing<em>...</em><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-fareast-font-family: Calibri; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-latin;">the movement beginning in the first century that degraded the deity, person, and work of Jesus Christ.</span></span><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-fareast-font-family: Calibri; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-latin;"><span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"> No apostle felt more strongly about the false claims of the Gnostic's than did John. It is interesting that Freemasonry talks about the Holy Saints John when John the Baptist was pointing to Jesus as the one who would come to take away the sins of the world. He was pointing to Jesus. The Apostle John wrote to condemn Gnosticism which Freemasonry proudly adheres itself to, so that they lies of the Gnostic's about Jesus would be overcome. </span></span><br />
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<span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-fareast-font-family: Calibri; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-latin;">Is that a problem? Gnostic's believe that there is the one true archetype of God and that all other gods, including Jesus, were simply a Demiurge (second level god who operates in the physical realm making things etc.)while the one true God is unknowable. However, we know that Jesus is presented in John chapter one as the Word one with the Father as eternal God. Colossians<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"> 1:15-20 says of Jesus:</span></span><br />
<div style="line-height: normal; margin-left: 27pt; text-align: left;"><span lang="en-us"></span> <b><span lang="en-us"></span></b><span lang="en-us"></span><sup><span lang="en-us"><a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=6605384459440897605#_ftn1" name="_ftnref1" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn1;" title=""></a></span></sup><span lang="en-us">He is the </span><sup><span lang="en-us"><a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=6605384459440897605#_ftn2" name="_ftnref2" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn2;" title=""></a></span></sup><span lang="en-us">image of the </span><sup><span lang="en-us"><a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=6605384459440897605#_ftn3" name="_ftnref3" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn3;" title=""></a></span></sup><span lang="en-us">invisible God, the </span><sup><span lang="en-us"><a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=6605384459440897605#_ftn4" name="_ftnref4" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn4;" title=""></a></span></sup><span lang="en-us">firstborn of all creation. </span></div><br />
<div style="line-height: normal; margin-left: 27pt; text-align: left;"><span lang="en-us"></span><b><span style="font-size: 83%;">16</span></b> <span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us">For </span><sup><span lang="en-us"><a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=6605384459440897605#_ftn5" name="_ftnref5" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn5;" title=""></a></span></sup><span lang="en-us"></span><sup><span lang="en-us"><a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=6605384459440897605#_ftn6" name="_ftnref6" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn6;" title=""></a></span></sup><span lang="en-us">by Him all things were created, </span><sup><span lang="en-us"></span></sup><span lang="en-us"></span><i><span lang="en-us">both </span></i><span lang="en-us">in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether </span><sup><span lang="en-us"><a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=6605384459440897605#_ftn7" name="_ftnref7" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn7;" title=""></a></span></sup><span lang="en-us">thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—</span><sup><span lang="en-us"><a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=6605384459440897605#_ftn8" name="_ftnref8" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn8;" title=""></a></span></sup><span lang="en-us">all things have been created through Him and for Him. </span></div><br />
<div style="line-height: normal; margin-left: 27pt; text-align: left;"><span lang="en-us"></span><b><span style="font-size: 83%;">17</span></b> <span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us">He </span><sup><span lang="en-us"><a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=6605384459440897605#_ftn9" name="_ftnref9" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn9;" title=""></a></span></sup><span lang="en-us"></span><sup><span lang="en-us"><a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=6605384459440897605#_ftn10" name="_ftnref10" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn10;" title=""></a></span></sup><span lang="en-us">is before all things, and in Him all things </span><sup><span lang="en-us"><a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=6605384459440897605#_ftn11" name="_ftnref11" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn11;" title=""></a></span></sup><span lang="en-us">hold together. </span></div><br />
<div style="line-height: normal; margin-left: 27pt; text-align: left;"><span lang="en-us"></span><b><span style="font-size: 83%;">18</span></b> <span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us">He is also </span><sup><span lang="en-us"><a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=6605384459440897605#_ftn12" name="_ftnref12" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn12;" title=""></a></span></sup><span lang="en-us">head of </span><sup><span lang="en-us"><a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=6605384459440897605#_ftn13" name="_ftnref13" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn13;" title=""></a></span></sup><span lang="en-us">the body, the church; and He is </span><sup><span lang="en-us"><a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=6605384459440897605#_ftn14" name="_ftnref14" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn14;" title=""></a></span></sup><span lang="en-us">the beginning, </span><sup><span lang="en-us"><a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=6605384459440897605#_ftn15" name="_ftnref15" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn15;" title=""></a></span></sup><span lang="en-us">the firstborn from the dead, so that He Himself will come to have first place in everything. </span></div><br />
<div style="line-height: normal; margin-left: 27pt; text-align: left;"><span lang="en-us"></span><b><span style="font-size: 83%;">19</span></b> <span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us">For </span><sup><span lang="en-us"><a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=6605384459440897605#_ftn16" name="_ftnref16" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn16;" title=""></a></span></sup><span lang="en-us">it was </span><sup><span lang="en-us"><a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=6605384459440897605#_ftn17" name="_ftnref17" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn17;" title=""></a></span></sup><span lang="en-us">the </span><i><span lang="en-us">Father’s </span></i><span lang="en-us">good pleasure for all </span><sup><span lang="en-us"><a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=6605384459440897605#_ftn18" name="_ftnref18" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn18;" title=""></a></span></sup><span lang="en-us">the </span><sup><span lang="en-us"><a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=6605384459440897605#_ftn19" name="_ftnref19" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn19;" title=""></a></span></sup><span lang="en-us">fullness to dwell in Him, </span></div><br />
<div style="line-height: normal; margin-left: 27pt; text-align: left;"><span lang="en-us"></span><b><span style="font-size: 83%;">20</span></b> <span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us">and through Him to </span><sup><span lang="en-us"><a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=6605384459440897605#_ftn20" name="_ftnref20" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn20;" title=""></a></span></sup><span lang="en-us">reconcile all things to Himself, having made </span><sup><span lang="en-us"><a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=6605384459440897605#_ftn21" name="_ftnref21" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn21;" title=""></a></span></sup><span lang="en-us">peace through </span><sup><span lang="en-us"><a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=6605384459440897605#_ftn22" name="_ftnref22" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn22;" title=""></a></span></sup><span lang="en-us">the blood of His cross; through Him, </span><i><span lang="en-us">I say</span></i><span lang="en-us">, </span><sup><span lang="en-us"><a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=6605384459440897605#_ftn23" name="_ftnref23" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn23;" title=""></a></span></sup><span lang="en-us">whether things on earth or things in </span><sup><span lang="en-us"><a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=6605384459440897605#_ftn24" name="_ftnref24" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn24;" title=""></a></span></sup><span lang="en-us">heaven. </span></div><br />
<div style="mso-element: footnote-list;"><div id="ftn25" style="mso-element: footnote;"><div style="margin: 0in;"><a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=6605384459440897605#_ftnref25" name="_ftn25" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn25;" title=""><span style="vertical-align: super;"><span style="mso-special-character: footnote;"></span></span></a><span id="__spanCitationData"> <i>New American Standard Bible : 1995 Update</i>. LaHabra, CA : The Lockman Foundation, 1995, S. Col 1:15-20</span></div><div style="margin: 0in;"></div><div style="margin: 0in;">For the Gnostic, they choose to believe that Jesus as the image of the invisible God is a secondary god. Krishna is a secondary god. So, as Masons, the ones that have been told what is going on; have attained to the knowledge. These enlightened Masons believe that they have stepped past the secondary gods of all of the world religions, and through their esoteric (only for a special few) knowledge, are praying "through" all of these secondary gods to the Great Architect of the Universe who is the one true unknowable God. They are knowing him through the geometry of the universe and the contents of the universe that reveal him through order. You see Hobbs says that this Gnosticism reduces the work of Jesus from the truth that no one will go to the into the after life to any location but hell, unless they go through Jesus. It reduces the work of Jesus to the same level of any other secondary god. So when we as Christians say that everything that exists, exists by the word of His mouth, and that all other gods are false (including their philosophical concept of a grand architect of the universe), we are told that we are too sophomoric to understand. So if you are a Gnostic you believe that out there in the universe (and beyond) is a Great Architect of the Universe that is the true unknowable God that Jesus was simply trying to point us toward. He is not that God revealing Himself as Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. When Jesus says, If you have seen the Father, you have seen me", He did not prove His deity, He reduced the Father to a secondary god as well. The triune God, to the Gnostic's is secondary to the unknowable Great Architect of the Universe. </div><div style="margin: 0in;"></div><div style="margin: 0in;">I hate to tell you this, but you need a shot at getting this right. There is a reason that Jesus does not appear in your Texas monitor. You will find Jehovah, and you will find other designations. You can look in other writings and find "Christ", or "the Lion of the Tribe of Judah", but you will not find Jesus presented as the only way of salvation and the only way to God. Those Masonic articles that Larry Kunk referred to at the Grand Lodge websites are prepared to explain away those familiar titles. "Christ" as a title would be Jesus for the Christian, a Christ or messiah that has not shown up yet for the Jews, the Mahdi for the Muslim, or Krishna for the Hindu. The Lion of the Tribe of Judah is Solomon or David for the Jew, and can be any other kind of messianic character for other world religions. If you are going to make it to heaven based on the merits of the Lion of the Tribe of Judah, that means you are going based on the "good example" of these various saviors.</div><div style="margin: 0in;"></div><div style="margin: 0in;">Freemasonry is willing to let you stretch to get there in your own assumptions, but the special "esoteric" knowledge that they have is just old philosophy from the time of Plato and Aristotle that has been turned into a "religion" for those who are on the "inside" in Freemasonry. Still within the introductory pages of the Texas Monitor on page xi in full paragraph two in their own words, the material in the monitor is used in conjunction with esoteric work (shared from mouth to ear- later in the book) to get the the work of the Lodge done, as it were. </div><div style="margin: 0in;">I know that there are all kinds of Christian images in Freemasonry, but as Gnostic's by declaration, these images are from a secondary Demiurge god. As a Freemason, either they believe this, or they believe that Jesus is just another name for the one true God like Allah, and Krisha, etc. If you don't believe any of that, then join Herschel Hobbs and leave gnosticism behind; especially those of you that are just finding out what is going on. If you stay, you will be leaving Freemasons all over the world with the impression that if they faithfully hold to the masonic teachings they will make it to the Great Architect of the Universe and his lodge. You know that is not true. The monitor says over and over that the Lodge is holding to the Holy Scriptures, and the bible (lower case) etc... Keep in mind that the book that is on the so called altar can be the holy book of any religion on the planet. </div><div style="margin: 0in;"></div><div style="margin: 0in;">Freemasonry is simply a way to integrate all world religions into one. The Fatherhood of God and the Brotherhood of all Mankind break down because of sin. We died as a result of sin, and the Bible (upper case) says that Jesus had to pay the penalty for our sin so that we could be adopted. Christians are not just more of the brotherhood of man. Because of sin, the Bible now identifies two groups on the planet: the children of God who have received Jesus in John 1:12 and everyone else that are identified as the children of the devil. Jesus says in John 3 that those who have not believed in Him are condemned already. Esoteric, gnostic philosophy with stole Christian terminology can not do for anyone what Jesus has done. Stop trying to get people into the lodge for the glory of the lodge. Come out of the lodge because of the warning of Jesus (it is His word) about world wide religion in Revelation 18. The Harlot of Babylon is all of the religions of the world pulled together until anti Christ gets through with her and destroys her so he can declare himself to be God, (also instead of Jesus). This is what the passage says about that kind of religion, <br />
<div style="line-height: normal; margin-left: 27pt; text-align: left;"><span lang="en-us">"I heard another voice from heaven, saying, '</span><span lang="en-us">Come out of her, my people, so that you will not participate in her sins and receive of her plagues; </span><span lang="en-us">for her sins have </span><sup><span lang="en-us"><a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=6605384459440897605#_ftn2" name="_ftnref2" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn2;" title=""></a></span></sup><span lang="en-us"></span><sup><span lang="en-us"><a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=6605384459440897605#_ftn3" name="_ftnref3" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn3;" title=""></a></span></sup><span lang="en-us">piled up as high as heaven, and God has </span><sup><span lang="en-us"><a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=6605384459440897605#_ftn4" name="_ftnref4" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn4;" title=""></a></span></sup><span lang="en-us">remembered her iniquities. </span></div><div style="mso-element: footnote-list;"><div id="ftn5" style="mso-element: footnote;"><div style="margin: 0in;"><a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=6605384459440897605#_ftnref5" name="_ftn5" style="mso-footnote-id: ftn5;" title=""><span style="vertical-align: super;"><span style="mso-special-character: footnote;"></span></span></a><span id="__spanCitationData"> <i>New American Standard Bible : 1995 Update</i>. LaHabra, CA : The Lockman Foundation, 1995, S. Re 18:4-5</span></div><div style="margin: 0in;"></div><div style="margin: 0in;">Anyone that has read Herschel Hobbs knows that he believes in the exclusivity of the Triune God and the completed work of Jesus to save those who will be saved. Without Jesus, not a Christ or a Lion of a Tribe, without Jesus- no one will make it to Heaven.</div></div></div></div></div></div> <span style="color: black; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-language: EN-US;"> </span><br />
<span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-fareast-font-family: Calibri; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-latin;"><span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><br style="mso-special-character: line-break;" /> </span> </span>Pastor David Turnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08758742607299611718noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6605384459440897605.post-8188497858630737202011-07-27T20:40:00.000-07:002011-07-28T18:19:05.661-07:00Part Four-Reaction to Larry Kunk’s Presentation on Free Masonry<span style="color: black; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-language: EN-US;">Someone might ask if a Mason should be a member of Christian church. I think the question is whether anyone in a Masonic type organization, who now knows the truth that has been revealed, ought to stay in that Masonic organization. To stay regardless of the truth that has been revealed would show what is most important to them, not their church and relationship with Jesus, rather their fraternal organization. Since the presentation shows that there are people who are teaching false concepts of God in most every state, national, and international level of the Masons, it is time to leave these organizations as true followers of Jesus. It is not a matter of whether a Mason should be in the Christian church, but whether a true born again Christian should be in the Lodge. We cannot afford to be taken advantage of by people who believe that we are all praying to the same god who only has different names. This is just the tip of the iceberg of these false teachings. Any truly Christian church could not say that it is right to have someone on their church rolls that truly and personally believes that Jesus and Krishna, and Osiris of ancient Egypt are all the same god with just a with a different name. I doubt that most of our local Masons believe these lies and for that reason they should leave the lodge and similar secret societies.<o:p></o:p></span><br />
<span style="color: black; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-language: EN-US;">So, as your pastor, what am I hoping will come of all this? There is not one person in our church that I would like to see leave. Not one. What I do want to see is the Word of God being upheld, salvation by grace and not by works being upheld, and the truth that there is only one God who reveals Himself as the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit and who is not the same god of the other world religions with only a name change. I want people to know that Jesus is not just one of the saviors, that there is no other name under heaven by which men must be saved (see Sunday night’s message about many saviors). I want people to know that if they think they can do the works of their lodge or group and make it heaven without having Jesus as their personal Savior and Lord, they are being deceived. If a person <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><u>really believes</u></b> what the official Masonic leadership materials has taught, they cannot maintain that Jesus is the only way to God. What is a pastor supposed to do? <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>He cannot stop preaching or having speakers that speak the truth of the scripture. Pastors will stand before God, including those having taken the easy way out. Those unwilling to deal with truth issues will be revealed to be false shepherds. If pastors stop preaching about adultery, lying, divorce, etc. because someone might be made to feel uncomfortable, we will have nothing else to preach but happy ear tickling messages that do not address God’s concerns for us. When we take away the ministry of the Word to reveal our sin, we are not going to be able to escape our sin. It may be uncomfortable to point to specific groups who have a false teaching about God, or false doctrines, but it must be done from time to time for the sake of our children and our grandchildren. No one heard any speaker, including myself or our church members say that we should hate any of these people. The opposite is true. Every presentation warned about the reality of hell for any person that does not accept the true Jesus as He has been revealed in the Word of God. What could be more loving than to let people know who and why they need to be reaching these groups of people who are being lied to by their very own leaders.</span><br />
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="color: black; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-language: EN-US;"><o:p> </o:p></span><span style="color: black; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-language: EN-US;">I hope that everyone will take the time to watch the presentations. If you did not get one during each service, you may get a DVD of the Sunday services, or watch them online at the church website. If the DVD from Sunday is difficult to understand, or if you cannot see the content on the screens, the same presentation Larry gave Sunday morning is available in PDF format in the church office on a CD. He also distributed a DVD on Sunday night of a previous lecture he gave on the same subject of the false Masonic way of salvation. Having this material will help us to avoid the misunderstandings that the enemy wants to use to keep us from carefully examining the truth.<o:p></o:p></span></div>Pastor David Turnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08758742607299611718noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6605384459440897605.post-61855362943528843972011-07-27T20:27:00.000-07:002011-08-04T13:03:24.957-07:00Part Three- Reaction to Larry Kunk’s Presentation on Free Masonry<span style="color: black; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-language: EN-US;">I have a tendency to believe that many men in our area are in the Masons and similar organizations because they have not looked closely enough to understand what they are being told. I believe from discussing this with non Mason men from our area, that being a Mason was a way to move up in certain companies or work groups. It was a way to be known and have the approval of other men. For many, it was a matter of doing what their fathers and grandfathers had done. I think the Christian men who joined probably interpreted the strange rituals to fit into their Christian understandings. I do not think that most of them ever were exposed to the true beliefs of the Masonic Lodge on the governing level at the Grand lodge of each state. For these men, I think it was like a fraternity, and a way to have a favored status with another group of men. I believe these men were being taken advantage of. I believe their dues and their influence was being stolen for the good of an organization that does not believe what they personally believe if they are truly born again believers in Jesus Christ. <o:p></o:p></span><br />
<span style="color: black; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-language: EN-US;">For example, in Tal Davis’s message about the Mormons he said that most Mormon’s do not know what the hierarchy of the Mormon church believes. They do not know that Mormon doctrine teaches that there are men who attained to godhood, all over the universe, who are now running their own planets. These average Mormons in our neighborhoods do not know that their leaders believe that a Mormon can do the right works and become a god of his own planet someday. By the works that Mormons would do, he would cease to be a man and become a god. This is just one of their beliefs that astounds most people when they become aware of it. When Tal made that presentation, he did not know who in the congregation might be a Mormon. He did not do anything but make a presentation of the truth of Mormon teaching that most Mormon’s aren’t even aware of. Larry Kunk did the same thing. He did not come with a vendetta against anyone, since he had been in a false teaching organization himself. Larry came with research that was supported by scores of former Masons. At another website, Ex-Masons for Jesus, </span><a href="http://www.emfj.org/"><span style="color: blue; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-language: EN-US;">www.emfj.org</span></a><span style="color: black; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-language: EN-US;"> are many stories from people who have discovered the truth of how they were being taken advantage of by the governing organization and those who have their own agenda. <o:p></o:p></span><br />
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="color: black; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-language: EN-US;">The material on Sunday was handled the same way the material was handled for every other meeting of the Truth About Cults Revival. <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>There was no way to address this issue without someone being offended. I, Larry, or Tal could have talked about the false teachings of any other group on the planet and would have gotten very little negative response. But, no one likes being deceived. Larry Kunk did not like it, and I do not like it. But good, truly Christian people have been deceived and this Masonic issue is just another example. The goal of the presentation was to give everyone the opportunity to walk through the issues before being made aware of the non-biblical teachings of Masonry. That was the only way to keep people from addressing the issue with pre-determined conclusions. Larry presented his material with a passion that goes beyond my personal experience. Larry says he has seen many people hurt by members from within the secret fraternal organizations who did not like the fact that someone had spoken out against, not individuals in their organization, but the organization itself. I assured him that this would not be the case here in Orange, Texas. Don't let the emotions of this event take your attention away from the truth of the evidence in the presentation. Examine the documents in the CD's of the presentation. If you picked up a DVD, or watched his presentation on the website, and you cannot make out the material on the screens during worship, please come by the office and get one copy for your family.</span></div>Pastor David Turnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08758742607299611718noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6605384459440897605.post-33045630250458294702011-07-27T20:14:00.000-07:002011-08-04T12:57:57.674-07:00Part Two- Reaction to Larry Kunk’s Presentation on Free Masonry<span style="color: black; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-language: EN-US;">What I found interesting about Larry Kunk is that he came from a similar organization as Freemasonry. He did not say that he was better or different than anyone that was in a secret fraternal society. He admitted that he had done things worse than most people in other secret fraternal societies would ever do. So, this man is revealing research that he has gotten from, in this case, the Masons own monitors, manuals, as selective readings from their own websites. Larry did not make up the research. Our own deacons sat and held the monitors of Masonic organizations from all over the country. They read the very pages that Larry presented by power point on Sunday morning and Sunday evening. They had the opportunity to question the validity of what they were seeing on the pages of all of these monitors. One deacon asked why so many of the monitors were old. I knew the answer to that question was not about them being outdated in Masonic thought. Masons are very proud of the age of their beliefs. In the Texas Monitor of 1982 in the “In Perpetual Memorial” section on roman numeral page five (v.) it acknowledges the grand lecturers from 1837 through 1895 (on the next page). In the “Preface” on Roman numeral page ten (x.) within the second paragraph it says, “We have relied almost entirely on the works of Brothers William M. Taylor, Sam R. Hamilton and Jewel P. Lightfoot with Lightfoot’s Manuel of the Lodge as the primary basis for our work. This is, in essence, little more than a minor revision of the enlightened work of Brother Lightfoot.” The Lightfoot Manual for the Texas Grand Lodge was written in 1934. The age of the material in the presentation Larry gave (from the 1990’s to the 1921 and possibly older) was not the real issue. <o:p></o:p></span><br />
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="color: black; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-language: EN-US;"><o:p> </o:p></span><span style="color: black; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-language: EN-US;">I am convinced that the strong reaction by some who did not even see the material presented at LCBC is based on assumption that everyone who is in the Masons now and those who are loved ones who were in the Masons in the past could not have possibly believed anything wrong. Remember, all of us are vulnerable to being deceived by people, organizations, governments, and principalities and powers of evil. People get in organizations that use them for their influence and money. The fact of the matter is, I don’t think that most Masons, even those who have progressed to higher positions, have realized what the Masonic teaching is truly pointing to. I think they believe that the good deeds that their lodge has done indicates the desire to do good to all people. I think that some of the things they say in their lodge meetings, and the things that some of the Masonic groups for women and children hear in their meets are Christian songs and imagery. <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I also believe that the materials being used are being understood by the participants as being about Jesus even though He is not being mentioned by name. (Don't mistaken the name "Christ" as being about Jesus alone since every religion can have their own messiah or Christ) That is why I think that many of these men, women, and children have been tricked into being a part of an organization that does not believe what they believe. Based on the material from the monitors and readings, those who wrote many of them clearly believe that we all pray to the same God no matter what religion we follow. I doubt that the man in the local lodge believes that the other Masons around the world who are praying to Krishna, or Vishnu, or Allah are praying to the same God that he is praying to when he prays to Jesus. The fact is, Masonic teaching holds that this is the truth. When Masons are praying, their written materials indicate that they are praying to the same single only existent god which they all know by a different name. Let me give you a few questions to consider if you were speaking to a Mason that is not one of your own well known and loved friends:<o:p></o:p></span></div><br />
<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="color: black; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-language: EN-US;">1. Is it true that there is only one God? ( you would certainly hope that they would say yes)<o:p></o:p></span></div><br />
<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="color: black; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-language: EN-US;">2. Is God a spirit? (this is also a very simple question that they should say yes to if they are a mason)<o:p></o:p></span></div><br />
<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="color: black; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-language: EN-US;">3. Is it true that all men worship the same God using a variety of names? (Larry’s presentation shows the problem with saying yes to this question)<o:p></o:p></span></div><br />
<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="color: black; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-language: EN-US;">4. Is Vishnu, a god that Hindus worship, the same spirit that you pray to at the lodge? (The Masons you know may not believe that, but the Masonic teachings affirm it to be true)<o:p></o:p></span></div><br />
<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="color: black; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-language: EN-US;">5. If you do not believe number 3 or 4 then why would you stay in an organization that teaches these things are true?</span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><br />
</div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="color: black; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-language: EN-US;">It seems that this is the main point of their faulty concept of God, but it is only the tip of the iceberg of their false teaching.</span></div>Pastor David Turnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08758742607299611718noreply@blogger.com0